FAQ's

Hi Glenn. Is the price of 50/50, alox2500+, and carnuba red all the same. I am not sure which you gave me a price on. How much shipping for 40 sticks to PA? I may be a few days deciding which I want to buy. Thank you. B.

Please check on current pricing for lube sticks –The 50/50,BAC,2500+-and the Red are all the same price, the only variable is if they are packaged in tubes or bags. at LsStuff@aol.com 2 s and 2 f, or check/MO and sometimes cash

What Lube should I use?

A: Well a lot boils down to personal choice. I always tell people if you have a heater, Glenn uses only the Red—a lot of people like the 2500 and the traditional 50/50 blend

Is a favorite. We had a lot of requests to mix the 50/50 and the red together so we came up with BAC-(beeswax, Alox, and Carnauba )

For new lubers we do sell a sample pack that has 2 each of each of the lubes at a reduced price so you can try them out.

How does your lube(Carnauba Red) work in 45/70 with bullet speed of 1200fps. I use the Lyman alox and beeswax mixand it's kind of messy to work with.

I haven't shot the Carnauba Red in a 45-70 rifle yet. It does work well in low velocity revolver rounds. I have shot it in my Rossi 357 mag rifle and it worked very well there.

I would imagine that it should work well in a 45-70 rifle. The Carnauba Red lube is a semi-hard lube and seems to work very well over a wide range of pressure and velocity. Some of the really hard lubes don't do much with low pressure beside just stay on the bullet. Mine is still pliable at room temp and seems to form a good gas seal without relying on the high pressure to make it work.

If you'd like to try a sample first, just send me back your address and I'll drop some in the mail.

I am making a firmer Alox lube now, Alox 2500+, it shoots about the same as my regular 50-50 lube, but isn't as messy to work with.

I’m a new bullet caster and will be making bullets for my 35 rem, 44 special and 10 mm auto along with some 32 mag bullets. Which lube should I be using. I anticipate using a Lyman 4500 or Rcbs luber/ sizer and my velocities will be under 1000 FPS for the 44 and 32 and about 1200 on the 10 mm and 1900 on the 35 Remington.

Thanks for your help.

All of our lubes cover a wide range of velocities and pressures, and should work for everything you have listed. Softer lubes generally work better for lower velocities and pressures, but this can vary from one gun to another.

The old NRA formula (50-50, 50%Beeswax 50% Alox) is a good all purpose lube, but has a tendency to smoke a little. This generally isn't too much of a problem unless you're at an indoor range or shooting a large number of rounds. Our 2500+ lube is stiffer than 50-50, doesn't have as much Alox and is a great all purpose lube.

Our Carnauba Red and BAC lubes usually don't smoke much if any.BACperforms very well in semi-auto handgun rounds. I have switched to C-Red for all of my cast bullets. I put on a Cowboy Action Shoot at a family reunion and we ran around 1600 38specialrounds through 2 revolvers and a Rossi M92 in one afternoon and the guns needed very little cleaning.

I guess I need to wrap this up before it turns into a book.

I would suggest that you try our Carnauba Red and BAC lubes. The C-Red is our only lube that needs a heater to flow in the luber, but only needs to be around 100F. A light bulb or hair dryer can work if you don't have a regular heater. I mounted my luber on a long steel plate and sit an old clothes Iron on the plate next to the luber.

I shoot hot 45/70 loads and 30/30's. Want to start casting. Can I use the 2,700+ for pan dipping? I want to pan dip and use the Lee sizers to size and put on the gas checks.

Any of our lubes can be used for pan lubeing, but the Carnauba Red can be abit of a pain to get the lube block out of the pan after it's cooled. It sticks to the bullets very well, but also sticks to the pans. I think if you cut them out when the lube is still warm, it might help.

The other lubes, 2500+, BAC, and 50-50, should be easier to work with.

All of our lubes should work fine in hot 45-70 and 30-30 loads. I have had several shooters say the 2500+ lube has performed excellent in big bore rifles. I have used 2500+ and C-Red in my 470 NE and have not had any fouling or leading.

I am hoping to use the method where you let the lube in the pan dry and then push them out of the cold lube with a dowel. Here is the link

I am wondering what the temperature is that I should not exceed with melting the lube. I intend buying the 1# bricks. Using a deep fat fryer seems easier than a double boiler. Just wondering again what temperature I should not exceed.

Try to not let the lube get hot enough to smoke. The hotter the lube gets, the more it will stick to the bullets and pan. When pouring into sticks, I keep it around 165-170°F. When over 200°F the lube becomes very difficult to remove from the moulds.

I'd start with the temp around 180°F, see how it works and adjust it up or down from there.

Hi. I already know Im gonna order 3 quarts of your liquid alox. I have 2 luber sizers and want 1 each set up for lower velocity & high velocity basically rifle or pistol, I need your advice on which lube(s) to use.

BAC or 50/50 ?

Calibers 38,357,9,45 acp, 44 mag & spl velocity 850 to approx 1500 fps

Red or White?

Calibers 223,7.62 x 39, 7.62 x 54, 308, 3006, 257 rbts velocities 2300 to 2800 fps approx

thanks & please advise

BAC or 50/50 ? BAC

Calibers 38,357,9,45 acp, 44 mag & spl velocity 850 to approx 1500 fps

I think BAC should work very well for your lower velocity and lower pressure rounds. You could also use it in your rifle rounds up to around 2300 fps.

Red or White? Carnauba Red

Calibers 223,7.62 x 39, 7.62 x 54, 308, 3006, 257 rbts velocities 2300 to 2800 fps approx

Our Carnauba Red is the only lube I have tried that will hold up to velocities higher than 2500 fps. The fastest I've pushed it was around 2700 fps in a 30-06. C-Red will also work great in your high end 357 and 44 mag loads.

Our Company name is White Label Lube, so I'm guessing you are referring to our "50-50 "or "2500+" lubes.

Our 2500+ is a great all purpose lube and should do well in all the rounds you have listed, except for the highest velocity rifle loads.

I shoot hot 45/70 loads and 30/30's. Want to start casting. Can I use the 2,700+ for pan dipping? I want to pan dip and use the Lee sizers to size and put on the gas checks.

Any of our lubes can be used for pan lubeing, but the Carnauba Red can be abit of a pain to get the lube block out of the pan after it's cooled. It sticks to the bullets very well, but also sticks to the pans. I think if you cut them out when the lube is still warm, it might help.

The other lubes, 2500+, BAC, and 50-50, should be easier to work with.

All of our lubes should work fine in hot 45-70 and 30-30 loads. I have had several shooters say the 2500+ lube has performed excellent in big bore rifles. I have used 2500+ and C-Red in my 470 NE and have not had any fouling or leading.

For Pan Dipping, are you talking about dipping the base of the bullets in a pan of melted lube, then sit on a piece of wax paper to cool?

Check out How to Pan Lube Cast Bullets - YouTube

I am using a Lyman 45 lubrisizer (no heater). I'm loading cast 38/357 wadcutters, 30-30 and 30-06 with gas checks. Which lube would you recommend?

All of our softer lubes(2500+, BAC, 50-50)are great all purpose lubes that can handle a wide range of pressures and velocities.

The 50-50 and BAC should handle rifle velocities up to 2200-2300 fps.

The 2500+ lube has given great performance up to 2500 fps.

Our BAC and 2500+ lubes have been used by shooters to set several new records in Mil-surplus rifle shoots.

Q: Hi, I am looking for a lube that requires no heater and is good for rifle and pistol up to 2200 to 2600 fps. You folks have anything like that? Thanks Dave.

Our 2500+ lube does not need a heater. It works great in a wide range of pistol rounds, includeing( 38 spl, 357 mag, 44 mag, 454 Casull, 45-70,475 Linebaugh, and 500 S&W).

I used a 190gn gas checkedbullet in a 30-06 for testing high velocity performance. The 2500+ lube gave a clean barrel and consistent groups up tojust over2500 fps. Around 2550 fps, the barrel started to foul and the groups opened up. Some shooters have said that the 2500+ lube worked great in 444 Marlin and hot 45-70 loads past 2500 fps. I have used it in my 470 NE with a 500gn gas checked bullet to 2250 fps and a 400gn plain base to 2400 fps without any problems at all.

Our Carnauba Red lube is excellent in magnum handgun rounds and I have pushed it to 2700 fps in a 30-06 with no fouling or leading at all. It does require a little heat(100F).

I'm sure you are aware that there are many other factors influencing cast bullet performance, but starting with a quality lubeshould help you get the performance you want.

Hello, Cast mostly for 44 mag (1200 fps),357 (1200 fps)and 38/55 (1700 fps)rifleand want to get the best lube available without all the high prices. What lube do you recommend for these calibers and need to get some on order. I use the RCBS lube a matic and have heater if needed. Thanks Butch.

Our Carnauba Red works great in magnum handgun and high velocity rifle loads. I use it in my 375 Win with a 250gn plain base bullet at around 2000 fps, so it should do well in your 38-55 also.

Carnauba Red does need a little heat to flow( around 100 F). Some shooters in warm areas have said they didn't need a heater, but my gun room stays around 65°F all year.

Hello, I've been using Rooster Red, but want to try some high velocity stuff

Is your Carnauba Red good for 3000 fps?

I personally have only pushed our Carnauba Red to just over 2700 fps with a 190gn gas checked bullet in a 30-06. The group sizes stayed fairly consistent and the barrel was spotless. The same test with Rooster HVR, gave a fouled barrel at around 2250 fps, and the group size doubled.

We do offer free samples so you can try it and form your own opinion.

Hi, I just bought some of your lube and can't wait to use it. How do I get the old lube out of the luber?

For switching lubes in the luber, I take all the hardware off and lay the luber body on an old cookie sheet in the oven on about 200°F. All the lube will melt and run out. You can wipe the exterior down with a shop rag, let cool and reassemble. When the old lube cools, you can use a paint scraper to peel it off and save for later.

Which lube for 45 Auto?

Our BAC lube does really well in semi-auto handgun calibers, 9mm,40 S&W, 10mm, 45 acp...

This lube generally does not smoke and should leave your barrel fairly clean and lead free. I have not heard of anyone having leading with this lube.

This lube is not as soft as 50-50 and is pliable and slightly tacky at room temp.

If you can take your time with lubeing and loading it should perform very well for you.

If you are running a high volume of bullets, or your loading room is very warm,you might think about a stiffer lube.

Our Carnauba Red is our only lube that needs heat to flow in a luber(100F). It is a semi hard lube that will stay on the bullets even if they are damaged way beyond use.

Carnauba Redisa low to no smoke lube and is 100% Non-Toxic. This is the lube that I use for all of my cast bullets

I would suggest that you get a couple sticks of Carnauba Red and BAC to try them both and see which one works best for you.

Thanks

Glenn Larsen

In a message dated 3/9/2012 6:50:23 A.M. Central Standard Time, D writes:

What is the difference between the red and the commercial red? When I sit down to lube 45s I try to spend a couple weeks doing it and will size/lube upwards of 50k. On a side note I have been using my casters and lubers for large caliber muzzleloading bullets and am currently using a lube that White Muzzleloading systems developed/bought years ago. Its quite greasy and a real mess-any ideas for a replacement for that? Thx again. D

Hi D, thanks for the interest in our cast bullet lubes.

The Commercial Grade is a little stiffer than the Carnauba Red. The melt point of both is around 162°F.

They are both really good all purpose lubes for rifle and pistol. The Commercial Grade is not as tacky when warm and will be better at not pulling out of the lube grooves. Both of them do well when run at the lowest temp that they will flow at. I would be very surprised if you had any leading or fouling problems with either of them.

Carnauba Red flows around 100°F

Commercial Grade flows between 105-130°F

Thompson's Bore Butter works pretty good. I'm not a real big fan of SPG. I used to have a BPCR lube that was wonderful, but I ran out of the wax that I used as the base for it and haven't found a good replacement since. I am working on getting a good BP lube going, but life is so busy that I'm not really sure when it will be done. Are you looking for a stick lube for production of muzzle loader bullets?

Thanks

Glenn